C2C Sunday May 18th

[pdforeme]

oops, sorry for the misidentificaton....

i made assumpton (always bad) that the blond blowing past us at about say 9am? would be tinabalina, ....making that assumption since she was going solo is some nasty conditions (had to have been about 9am at say 2000 feet)

and the dig was aimed at the "dumb *ss" comment; has less zip and thunder since all i can acuse tinabalina of is some coarse languagle. sorry.

we halved our temps by flying back; 51 up north

[tinaballina]

and the dig was aimed at the "dumb *ss" comment; has less zip and thunder since all i can acuse tinabalina of is some coarse languagle. sorry.

Just so there is no miscommunication, i was referring to myself as being a dumb ass there....no one else.

[cynthia23]

TinaB is very friendly and chatted with me quite warmly; but I do agree with PDforeme that people who blow past you without the courtesy of a smile or a "hello" are being rude, and it's also poor etiquette from a safety point of view; you should always take the time, IMHO, to ask "how are you?" to hikers you pass, to make sure they are not in distress (some people will be too shy to grab you by the sleeve and say "help me".) As far as your situation PdforMe, you ABSOLUTELY made the right call to abort the hike. Heat cramps, etc, would not get better, they would just get worse and worse. You can't gut your way through heat exhaustion. Had you acted differently you definitely would have been involved in a rescue situation (like the guy on Saturday.) You're right that "weather rules". My rule is, no newbies on Skyline, ever, on a day with temps over 90. It's just too challenging, and not safe, for a first time. First timers should only go on days when conditions are close to ideal: Palm Springs temps no higher than 85. Try again on a much cooler day.

[zippetydude]

Tina does a 5:22 and back to back Skylines...shouldn't she be referred to as "the other really fit blond girl"?

Incidentally, I was up in Yosemite last summer, and came across yet another "blond girl" who was trail running. We merely said hi, but when I finished the trail, feeling spiffy with a few miles under my belt, I ran into a guy who told me she had just finished 63 miles! Wow! There are some great athletes out here in the wilderness.

Cynthia23, I agree with you. I've seen a thread about that on the Whitney Portal Board. Very peculiar, but some folks really hate to see even one other person on the trail, others don't like to speak . . . good thing most are friendly!

Hope to see some of you out there this weekend.


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[Perry]

There are lots of possibilities for not saying "hi" to another person on the trail. If you get offended, then you're making a big assumption: that you know the reason why the other person didn't acknowledge you. People who are more secure about themselves don't need constant attention.

Sometimes I say "hi" and chat a lot, and other times I don't. I remember somebody being upset that I didn't say "hi" to them, ignoring the fact that I was breathing heavily running uphill at about 10,000 feet and watching my step on the rocks. Clueless. And it wasn't like I took up the whole trail. I always move to one side. Usually the right side, or the opposite side of the other person.

[pdforeme]

perry, et al...my point on the "greetings"

On a crowded trail, in good weather, and when i'm no great expert..... i see no need to say much and don't care if you say hi or say nothing (though a hi is nice)...
But lets say its 100+, and you fly up the mountain, and you see a slow mover, or a possible "person in over their head", then you ought to talk just enuf to see if you need to help. I suspect Mountain Goat had that in his head as he said hi to us (likely, "i'm a bit on the edge today, and anyone else out here, save for known buddies, might just be in over their head".

I was not bothered by the heat per se (remember I grew up in Palm Desert), so I don't need 80 degree days or whatever. BUT....the bad heat made our retreat near impossible....so in a trail where you hike fast to flee the heat, you then build a "floor" you cannot retreat beneath. That's for me the reeason not to go....I guess in same way you don't want to get stuck on a winter hike when a severe temp drop might happen...

[Perry]

I know that weird feeling. I politely ask those people if they are okay and if they know what they are doing without trying to make them feel small. Mainly I point out the facts and point out how much water I'm carrying or the ice axe on my back in winter/early spring and how some people get rescued or don't make it. But if they are sure of themselves, I let them be.

[Perry]

Okay, now I get it. I went back and read your post. Did you guys look really bad when this anonymous blonde girl went flying by? Also, it is fairly common for some people to only go up to 2,000 or 3,000 feet and then turn around, so maybe she thought you were one of those people.

Here is some interesting food-for-thought:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamenta ... tion_error

[tinaballina]

i am just curious who this "blonde girl" is. I have been doing skyline repeatedly for the last couple of weeks and don't recall any other blonde girl on the trail. Oh well....
Hope to see some of you on the trail this Saturday, should be a great hiking day with cloud coverage. almost a 180 from last weekend.

[Hikin_Jim]

i am just curious who this "blonde girl" is. I have been doing skyline repeatedly for the last couple of weeks and don't recall any other blonde girl on the trail. Oh well....
Hope to see some of you on the trail this Saturday, should be a great hiking day with cloud coverage. almost a 180 from last weekend.

I hear she's been seen with Elvis Presley a lot lately...