Current Snow Cover, Jan 2015

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Current Snow Cover, Jan 2015

Postby short4bmoney » Fri Jan 23, 2015 8:57 pm

Heading up to Idyllwild tomorrow and stoping at REI on the way, with hopes of hiking the summit via Devil's Slide on Sunday.

While the weather forecast looks clear, I'm curious if anyone has hiked recently can explain how much snow gear would be needed. For example, MicroSpikes, crampons or snow shoes + ice axes. I plan to ask the staff at REI but I would like to get some first-hand feedback.

Thanks in advance!

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Re: Current Snow Cover, Jan 2015

Postby Sally » Sun Jan 25, 2015 7:55 pm

Sorry, I didn't see your post in time to answer before your trip, and REI probably didn't have an accurate answer for you either. I've not been up there lately, but I do know that one would rarely, if ever, need crampons or ice axe for this route. My guess is that microspikes would be very useful, but I'm not sure if snowshoes would even be necessary at this time.

I'm looking forward to a trip report with maybe pictures and a rundown on what equipment you used. Hope you had a blast!

Forecast for tomorrow: Snow! This could change things, I hope.
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Re: Current Snow Cover, Jan 2015

Postby tinaja22 » Mon Jan 26, 2015 10:00 pm

If anyone is up there within the next couple of days, please post on the current conditions? We plan on heading up on Saturday, I have microspikes but given the recent posts, not sure if these will do the trick.
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Re: Current Snow Cover, Jan 2015

Postby short4bmoney » Mon Jan 26, 2015 11:20 pm

I'm happy to report on my climb from Sunday, January 25:

The conditions were cold, clear and windy. We departed Humber Park at 7am and reached the summit around 1pm. Most of the first 4 miles featured only small stretches (10-20yds) of unavoidable ice on the narrow trail. We slowed down a little, using our poles to maintain balance. We frequently stopped and basked in the sunlight, shedding layers to stay dry and not overheat.

Then, when the trail cuts back North/Northeast toward Wellman's divide, there were much longer chunks of trail covered in compacted snow and ice. During these sections, the micro spikes were a life saver. We easily maintained pace and trudged on. This 1 mile portion plus the last 2.4mi stretch on the Deer Springs Trail to the final junction before the summit were very exposed to the wind from the east and thus, very cold. I used my infrared thermometer gun every time we stopped, and we never saw air temps above 36ºF not accounting for wind chill.

The last third of a mile to the peak featured snow that was far less compacted than the icy trail leading up to it, and far less visible. The peak itself had gusts of 40+ mph, forcing us to scale the boulders to avoid losing balance while posing for pictures. Just a few minutes in those conditions was enough to force us rest in the small shelter to eat lunch and regenerate body heat for about 20 minutes.

In summary, no need for snow shoes, and even crampons would have likely been too tedious to take on and off to accommodate for the trail's variety of coverage. Micro spikes are highly recommended, though a few hikers got by without, albeit much slower. Poles and gloves are also highly recommended. Total time in these conditions for my first summiting MSJ: 10hrs, 6 up and 4 down including stops.

I would say the forecast provided at the URL below was very accurate, esp. for the 8,000ft and 10,000ft elevations. They may have gotten a couple inches of snow in the last 24 hours. Also looks windy on Saturday.
http://www.mountain-forecast.com/peaks/ ... casts/2500

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Re: Current Snow Cover, Jan 2015

Postby Sally » Tue Jan 27, 2015 8:08 pm

Thanks for the enjoyable and informative TR and pics, and congrats for braving the elements and making it to the top! Sometimes that little hut really comes in handy!
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Re: Current Snow Cover, Jan 2015

Postby tinaja22 » Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:31 pm

Thank you very much for the very detailed and informative update. I am excited and cant wait for our Saturday hike! :-)
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