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Postby Florian » Wed Jan 08, 2014 7:06 pm

And i've had mixed feelings about the water bucket i placed a few years ago. I removed it once as i thought it had become a nuisance but some on the forums thought it was more helpful than not so put it back. I really don't know what's best.

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Postby Screerider » Wed Jan 08, 2014 7:35 pm

Florian wrote:And i've had mixed feelings about the water bucket i placed a few years ago. I removed it once as i thought it had become a nuisance but some on the forums thought it was more helpful than not so put it back. I really don't know what's best.

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I think it best to complain and not do anything. The water needs to be unlocked, fresh, and plentiful. Those who abuse will continue to do so. I'm not into risking lives to stop it. It is what it is.
If enough of us do the same as David, it won't be a problem.
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Postby bluerail » Wed Jan 08, 2014 7:40 pm

i'll drink water thats goats have peed in if i have to to stay alive.

Giardia truly truly sucks, but it's better than the alternative.


A small lock is an idea thats been tossed around an reasonable. If youre truly in trouble youre more than comfortable busting a toy lock to get to something in a rescue box. Hopefully not already being so delirious that figuring out how to do it is beyond you.

Ive put dirt in water bottles in the boxes and it hasnt slowed people down. even within the last three weeks during cool weather someone has used water at the 2nd box that id put dirt in. thirst is a powerful thing. Hopefully it wasnt used to wash peanut butter off their face.
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Postby Florian » Wed Jan 08, 2014 7:52 pm

bluerail wrote:i'll drink water thats goats have peed in if i have to to stay alive.

But not all would. It's summer on Skyline, out of water, city looks so close, and find a bottle of ugly looking water. Who would drink it and who would think that the city is so close i'll just hike down and be okay? You and i might understand the importance of water. The people that the water boxes are for do not.

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Postby bluerail » Wed Jan 08, 2014 7:57 pm

that would truly be ashamed that they would pass on water with some dirt in it to save themselves in dire heat when they drove 70 miles an hour on a crowed freeway in a 2 ton peice of flying steel to get to the trailhead.

btw, i know what you mean about the bucket, but it has become somewhat of a fixture.
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Postby Florian » Wed Jan 08, 2014 8:01 pm

bluerail wrote:that would truly be ashamed that they would pass on water with some dirt in it to save themselves in dire heat when they drove 70 miles an hour on a crowed freeway in a 2 ton peice of flying steel to get to the trailhead.

I don't think that comment is very helpful.

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Postby Sally » Wed Jan 08, 2014 8:18 pm

Florian, I think that your bucket is a GOOD thing. On a couple of occasions I have realized I have overestimated how much fluid to bring and have left a quart bottle of unopened Gatorade in the bucket, lightening my load and maybe helping someone out. Also, on one trip my daughter wasn't feeling too great and was going through more water than usual. One of the small bottles was just what she needed to make it to the Notch.

We enjoy taking our one major rest break at the cache and don't mind packing out any "empties" that may be in the bucket.
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Postby bluerail » Thu Jan 09, 2014 7:49 am

but im sure you get my point about weighing risk.
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Postby Ken » Thu Jan 09, 2014 12:10 pm

Just a thought: it might be good to consider that when one posts on a forum that one has the intention, or actually has, placed deliberately contaminated water out for people to use.....and they get sick subsequently, that one has almost certainly committed a crime.

Even just the threat of doing so is questionable.

You don't know what is in that dirt you might be putting in a bottle.

You also don't know who might read this thread.
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Postby bluerail » Thu Jan 09, 2014 12:57 pm

Yep. Good point. I have never put dirt in water bottles on skyline.

But I have joked about it.
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