Howdy Jim
I'll be meeting Cy at Manker flats at around 5:15 to leave a car. I believe he's meeting someone at the RS at 5 AM to caravan up to Manker flats. Then, we'll come down in one car which would likely place us at the Bear Canyon trailhead at 5:30.
From what Cy says, it sounds like there will be ample people on the Bear Canyon trail of various speeds for us to hike with. After two 14ners in two consecutive weekends, my legs aren't feeling that spy
I think 4 to 5 liters sounds like a good idea. I'll be carrying 3 liters and will likely drink a liter before leaving the car.
Too bad there's no beer at the summit
Miles of smiles,
Ellen