100 mph wind gusts on Mt. Jacinto Saturday

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100 mph wind gusts on Mt. Jacinto Saturday

Postby TramWeatherCenter » Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:33 pm

If anyone is going to brave that, it should be an interesting sight if my numbers are right.

Your timeframe is Saturday after 9am and before 5pm.
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Postby TramWeatherCenter » Sat Jan 21, 2012 9:40 am

80 mph gusts and rising.
Observation 8:40 a.m.
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Postby TramWeatherCenter » Sat Jan 21, 2012 2:54 pm

105 mph
Observation recorded at 1:50pm
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Postby zippetydude » Sat Jan 21, 2012 3:52 pm

Better watch out Kevin:

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/so ... 32833.html

If this idea gains momentum here in the US, you could be in trouble!

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Postby TramWeatherCenter » Sat Jan 21, 2012 3:59 pm

I was right about the winds. Those speed forecasts for the tram is what they use to determine if they will close or not, or have a window to close before the winds hit.

My sites are private owned, which means I am free to distribute information how I feel is necessary. Not sure what South Africa is thinking but the government does NOT own mother nature.

They'd have one heck of a war on their hands if that was ever tried here.
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Postby zippetydude » Sat Jan 21, 2012 4:45 pm

TramWeatherCenter wrote:
They'd have one heck of a war on their hands if that was ever tried here.


Could be...if you and Michael Mojarro ever got on the same side, there's no tellin' just what might happen!

By the way, I was out there today, and it was crazy windy. I was up on a ridge, and at times I could stand still and lean into a sustained 50-60mph wind, I felt like one of those guys in a squirrel suit. It was fun.

So, obviously there's some pressure differential that causes this sort of thing, but can you describe exactly what happens to create this kind of thing?

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Postby bluerail » Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:17 pm

I can tell you one thing zip......its a WINGSUIT...nut honestly, I like squirrelsuit better..
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Postby TramWeatherCenter » Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:22 pm

Ah yeah me and mike are pretty cool. We don't see eye to eye on some things but he's a cool person to talk to so we get along now.

As for what caused this? What it is is the strong mid-level jetstream between 10,000 and 12,000 feet. This then works with drier air coming in behind the frontal zone.

This drier, colder air in the mid levels sinks because cold air sinks. It comes rapidly down the east side of Mt. San Jacinto and blasts the tramway area, including the towers on its way down.

I developed a special formula for the wind speed predictions so they can get a better idea on what sinking air will do. Traditional grid forecasts had 75 mph at the highest but by factoring in the formula I developed for them, it was over 95 mph. Some math is involved on top of what mid-level jet stream values show.
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Postby bluerail » Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:52 pm

Well it sure steamed havoc on palm springs too...what a mess of uprooted and busted trees..
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Postby TramWeatherCenter » Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:53 am

bluerail wrote:Well it sure steamed havoc on palm springs too...what a mess of uprooted and busted trees..


I'm responsible for 2,500 to 8,500 feet along the tram route, but I can venture upwards if someone e-mails me from the link on the PSTram Weather Page.

However, I do take care of the entire area on my site, Southern California Weather Authority. Here is a copy of the High Wind Watch from Thursday ...

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HIGH WIND WATCH
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA WEATHER AUTHORITY
ISSUED JAN 19, 2012 12:30p

KERN, VENTURA, LOS ANGELES, SAN BERNARDINO, RIVERSIDE, SAN DIEGO MOUNTAINS ... THE HIGH DESERT ... BANNING AND CAJON PASS ... THE COACHELLA VALLEY ... MORONGO BASIN ... SAN DIEGO DESERTS ... THE ANTELOPE VALLEY ... KERN DESERTS ...

THE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA WEATHER AUTHORITY HAS ISSUED A HIGH WIND WATCH EFFECTIVE NOW FOR SATURDAY ...

ALERT DISCUSSION:

This is a very dangerous situation ...

A storm system moving into the area on Saturday will bring very strong winds for the mountain areas, with wind gusts over 50 mph, some eastern slope zones having winds of over 90 to 100 mph.

This is a very dangerous situation in some mountain and desert areas. Stay updated to the Southern California Weather Authority's main page for additional watches.

A High Wind Warning is pending ...

A Hurricane Wind Force Warning is pending in spots ...
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