Today's (11-29-2011) north face photo of Mt. San Jacinto

[HikerBlatt]

http://desertroadkill.blogspot.com/

[zippetydude]

You biked the north face? And i thought Steve and Fern were impressive.

z

[Carl F]

On a Road Bike no less! Amazing. Next thing you know you'll be break dancing too!

[Cy Kaicener]

Jim - Here is a link that might interest you (from an earlier post)

http://www.dirttreaders.com/phpBB3/view ... 60&start=0

These guys did 6000 ft gain in about 9 miles (one way) to Flat Rock

[HikerBlatt]

Today Kurt and I did a short hike up the PCT from Snow Creek Village. We got inspired from yesterday's road bike ride to Snow Creek Village, which didn't take us up the trail. I have been down the trail many years ago, but Kurt is new to the area, so we went out for a look.

We hiked up the DWA road and were met by Warren, the DWA Security person. He was pleasant and wanted to make sure we didn't go where we were not allowed to go.

We hiked up the PCT to where the old trail from Canyon de Los Osos met the main newer trail at about 1,247 (according to my Garmin), http://connect.garmin.com/activity/131910319.

Then we took the old trail back down.

There were tracks from a mountain bike on the main PCT, I assume going downhill. Once we were on the old trail there were boot prints made by someone going up fairly recently.

Photos: http://flic.kr/s/aHsjx4VSMx

[zippetydude]

About those mountain bikers - those guys are legit! They actually carried those bikes up (and part of the down). Seems like it must have been crazy hard but an adventure for all that.

z

[lilbitmo]

About those mountain bikers - those guys are legit! They actually carried those bikes up (and part of the down). Seems like it must have been crazy hard but an adventure for all that.

z

Not to be argumentative but Bike's are never allowed on the PCT what-so-ever, I have nothing against them, just stating the facts.

From the PCT website

Simply put, the PCT was not designed or constructed for mountain bikes and is thus easily and seriously degraded by mountain bike use – especially when those bikes are ridden on wet or muddy trail. Riding bikes on wet trails can cause deep furrows and erosion. It typically occurs when riders skid back tires when braking on downhill, apply heavy torque to tires when riding uphill, or simply ride through mud. The damage caused by a mountain biker is much greater than that caused by a hiker or horse because, with a bike, the soil is impacted continuously along the trail, while a hiker's or horse’s feet hit the soil only at intervals. The continuous troughs created in trail tread by bikes collect water runoff from the entire hillside above the trail and then act as drainage ditches, creating serious erosion which the PCT was not constructed to withstand. Water that might drain off the trail under pedestrian and equestrian use now runs down it in wheel ruts, eventually removing all the soil and turning the trail into a streambed. In extreme cases, no amount of “trail maintenance” can restore the trail and new trail becomes necessary.

[zippetydude]

Patrick: If you go to the link, they carried them up Skyline. The PCT would be a very rideable trail. The guy's real honest too, describing being too tired to try to ride a lot of it on the way down, thus carrying the bike in both directions. Didn't work out like they were hoping.

z

[lilbitmo]

Patrick: If you go to the link, they carried them up Skyline. The PCT would be a very rideable trail. The guy's real honest too, describing being too tired to try to ride a lot of it on the way down, thus carrying the bike in both directions. Didn't work out like they were hoping.

z

My bad, just thought you meant they carried them up and down the PCT but somewhere you mentioned riding them and wanted to let other readers/riders know that it's not ok to ride bikes on the PCT - wasn't meant to be a warning just the rules, sorry I misunderstood the location

[zippetydude]

Check your pm

z