Mt. San Jacinto Outdoor Recreation

by Zé » Wed Nov 23, 2011 12:18 pm

as for posting times, it's human nature for people to get excited about accomplishing something, and wanting others to know about it. the amount of things one announces and to how big of an audience varies wildly by person, generation, culture, and can be debated ad nauseum.

hell, people tweet these days...stuff like "omg finished hard work out" LOOK AT ME

by **bluerail** » Wed Nov 23, 2011 12:22 pm

If you untie the rope you're always hanging on you'd be faster Cameron.

by **bluerail** » Wed Nov 23, 2011 12:24 pm

See Fern...I told you there was an official trail .

by **neverwashasbeen** » Wed Nov 23, 2011 2:43 pm

Steve, I'm sure you're correct, but I'm needy and have to have my security blanket. :wink:

by **Ellen** » Wed Nov 23, 2011 5:33 pm

InFerno!!! Congratulations

So glad to see you on the board at last.

Miles of smiles and hugs,
Ellen

by **cynthia23** » Wed Nov 23, 2011 6:31 pm

To address Patrick's question: I think one issue with posting 'brag' times is that it can give novice Skyliners reading the posts an unrealistic idea of how hard/easy Skyline actually is for the "average" hiker. Joe or Jane Blow, reading 'oh, it took this guy four hours, and that gal three, so it's probably not going to take me any more than five hours" have no idea that the sub-five group are training very, very hard to get to that elite level. I regard people like Fern, Bluerail, Zip, Ellen, etc as elite athletes who just don't happen to be world famous.

Not understanding the superb fitness level of the people writing the superfast TRs perhaps leads to some of the rescues. The other problem is that the urgency to hurry to the top to 'beat' others' time (even though we're saying we're only trying to beat ourselves

) perhaps leads to the massive shortcutting. I wince at the endless new 'shortcuts' and the subsequent erosion of the mountainside and destruction of the fragile vegetation--especially since it's pointless. .Remember folks, if you take a shortcut, it doesn't 'count' in cutting down your time anymore than that chick who took the subway to win the New York City Marathon really won the race. So please ppl don't shortcut to 'improve' your time. That makes zero sense. Take the established route and be zen about it. Or something.

Anyway, for the record, and to inject a note of glum realism into this: my BEST ever time on Skyline was six and a half hours; WORST, eleven (granted, there was heavy snow and we got lost.) But I don't call myself slow; I'm just MAJESTIC.

by **Lermo** » Wed Nov 23, 2011 7:59 pm

Welcome to the board Fern. I feel like I know you already from all the crazy amazing TR's I've read.

Happy Trails!

by **Stockwell** » Wed Nov 23, 2011 9:06 pm

This thread has grabbed my attention on this route. It will be one I think I'll attempt sometime this spring maybe if training and my endurance are good enough. I would as well post a TR and brag about my time as well, it will probably be about 9-10 hours but completing the climb will make my day and put a smile on my face. Personal accomplishment is what I am in it for. Hearing about everybody else times is just more inspiration for me.

Keep it up guys, and I cant wait to have some of you blow past me while I meander my way up.

by **Pitownpi** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 7:22 am

http://advancedlifeskills.com/blog/true-essence-of-life/
as far as I'm concerned, whoever spends the most time in the wilderness is the winner!

Gobble Gobble...
Happy Thanksgiving!!!

by **bluerail** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 7:29 am

The significant ones aren't really shortcuts....theyre more work.

Mt. San Jacinto Outdoor Recreation

Skyline - 11/19/11

Pi doesn't wear a watch, time way too valuable to measure!!!

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