TRASHY PEOPLE AND HOW I HATE THEM

[zippetydude]

Incidentally, did anybody else see that stuff about 3 miles into the trail last Saturday? It looked like a tent, but I didn't stop to look into it. Probably too big to want to pick up and carry all the way up. I won't be doing a down-bound trip for a few months, but if it's not gone by then I'll get rid of it. Who on earth would pack a big load of junk up the first 3 miles? That's a tough section of trail.

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[Rick M]

I do too Cynthia. But, one of the ways we find lost people is buy their droppings (trash included). So, if you are not lost, don't litter. If you are lost, leave us a trail (footprints are best but trash works just as well provided we can contact someone to verify it's yours). So, just don't pick up the trash of lost people as it makes it harder for us to find them

With this big group going up next month, maybe that's how we'll find anyone getting lost

Rick

ps Once followed, and I kid you not, a trail of M&Ms left by a kid for 4 miles and it's sounds like YOU ARE MAKING A DIFFERENCE ON OUR TRAILS!

[MooseTracks]

Cynthia:

I also appreciate your passion! And I think I might pummel someone seen leaving crap either on or off the trail (the literal of the word if not digging a proper cathole! ). I wish it was confined to one area of heavy travel, but here's what I found yesterday when jogging the Whitney Portal Road:



Come on, people, give me a break! I just can't find anything on the sign that indicates that THIS IS A GARBAGE CAN!! Yoinks. Of course, this leads into the ultimate discussion of wagbags (for up here, at least, and that's another discussion board).

While I roll my eyes and am disgusted by the uncouth portions of the population, I now just carry a separate bag (or, as yesterday, roll up the plastic bottles, crush the can, put in pockets, and the bottles became hand weights for the run down).

-Laura

[Ellen]

Howdy All

I am resurrecting Cynthia's excellent post regarding trash on Skyline

I checked the 5.5 K rescue box and found two empty water bottles. Packed them out. Then, at Florian's cache, another large empty water bottle which I also packed out.

Talked with Doug, Steve, Fern, and Patti about this as we were rehydrating at the tram bar. Some points:
1) Florian's bucket is not a trash can.
2) If someone carries water up Skyline, they should be fit enough to pack out the darn bottle.
3) It's bad enough to drink the emergency water but then to leave the bottle? What the !@#$%^&*
And last but not least:
There is NO WATER on Skyline -- do not hike it expecting to find any.

I doubt anyone on this forum is responsible but I had to vent. Rant over, thanks.

Miles of smiles,
Ellen

[phydeux]

A friend and I hiking the Tram-to-summit route on Saturday packed out:

8 plastic water bottles.
Paper bits galore.
innumerable ziploc-style bags.
24 oz malt liquor can (Schlitz, for those of you with a less-than-discriminating palate!).
3 apple cores (found in the hut).
2 bagels in a bag (also found in the hut)

Geez folks, take your trash with you!

[trcar]

On board with the rest of the gang. My particular pet peeve is orange peels. In the desert, they may as well be bright orange pieces of styrofoam. I am with the group that pack everything out you can! I pick up, but will bring a grocery bag to minimize foreign funk in my pack.

[bluerail]

I'll be sure to leave some for you...and by the way, you might want to pick up my avocado skin, banana peels, pistachio shells and the spent pine cones I ate. If you can find them. I pick up man made trash all day long...the other stuff though? Nope.

Guess I'm just bad.... but I do pull the stickers off the produce.

[trcar]

Man, I wondered who was eating all those pine cones. You are everywhere!

[trcar]

I'll clarify my previous post. I don't like orange peels thrown on the side of the trail. This might work fine in the Northeast or Northwest in rainy areas, but it takes substantially longer for such things to degrade in our desert mountains and lowlands. As for hidden "biodegradables", I won't look for yours if you don't look for mine!

[bluerail]

Okay, that gave me a good laugh...it's a deal !