Thanks for that clarification Jim, I was trying to make sense of Tina's post, but I wasn't getting very far.
By the way, it's easy to meet Kathy, just show up at random places in the San G wilderness, and you're bound to meet. That's one trail hikin' woman! We've met several times, though it would be fun if Kathy (ahem! are you reading this Kathy?) would adjust her busy hiking schedule and go with us on some adventure or other!
Anyway, I'm looking forward to the 9th, although I'm not sure I'll hike back down. Kinda wimpy on the downhill. Might do a couple of ups instead, try to keep up with that crazy Steve and Fern couple.
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