Snow Creek with the crazy guy

[Tapout or Blackout]

why in the world would you come down ? theres a tram. and if your doing it to be able to see the snow, and feeling like it would be easier.... I would'nt do it. There are places where coming down will be much harder than climbing up, and in any case, I imagine the snow and ice show is coming to an end. I was in there 3 weeks ago and it was finishing up.

Thanks. I'm too cheap + can't arrange a shuttle. Also the satisfaction of a roundtripper will be an added incentive. Are there reports of anyone actually gone down this way with or without the snow?

[Hikin_Jim]

Wow. A round tripper. That would be a feat of unparalleled athleticism. The best of the best are wiped out by the ascent alone. I've never even heard of anyone thinking about it. Bro, you must be one heck of an athlete if you can do that. Are you a professional guide/climber? Do you guide big stuff like up in Alaska ... do you do 8000m peaks? Just who are we talking to here? You can PM me if you don't want to publicly identify yourself. I realize you might get swamped with messages if you did.

HJ

[bluerail]

he looks like some sort of cute, fuzzy, asian fighting bear, Jim

It would save you $11 for the tram ticket. Of course there is the question of calories you would be consuming on the way back down.

cab fair back to your car is $40, or just drop a vehicle back at the visitors center right down the road. as car shuttles go, it's about as simple as they come.

OR....you can call Florian to pick you up, anytime of the night or day.

OR... you can pay my kid to drop you off at 3 - 4 in the morning, thats worked for us. he'll follow you to the visitors center and then to SC road.

...several people seem to go up and ski down.

[Florian]

OR....you can call Florian to pick you up, anytime of the night or day.

Quiet you!

-Florian

[Zé]

Sure, if you know the route and are in superb ultra endurance shape and don't mind climbing 24+ hrs straight.

[Tapout or Blackout]

Thanks for the feedback. I'm a nobody. My time going up anything is nothing to get excited over. I do not know the route or own GPS. But if I bring my A-game and keep my freak going, I'll slowly make it. I know it's brutally long going up, but my main concern is not being able to "step down" some steeper rock sections on the way back. Would snow conditions make this easier?

[Hikin_Jim]

...my main concern is not being able to "step down" some steeper rock sections on the way back.

"Step" down? I think you mean climb down. Remember, this is not a hiking route. This is a mountaineer's route. Depending on your level of skill, you may or may not be able to climb down.

Would snow conditions make this easier?

It depends. How good are you with an ice axe and crampons?

HJ

[Cy Kaicener]

Tapout or Blackout - Dont even consider descending Snow Creek. Can you imagine what descending about 10,000 steep feet would do to your knees and toes besides having to rappel down steep sections. Descending, you will be spotted by someone at DWA.
Having climbed it, you will be only too happy to hike to the tram with your remaining strength. If you are lucky, you may not have to pay for the tram down. After riding down you can hitch hike down or talk someone in the tram into giving you a ride most of the way back. After hearing what you did i am sure someone will be sympathetic.
Here is a detailed trip report by Rick which is easier and shorter than the legal route.
http://www.summitpost.org/trip-report/3 ... -2008.html

[Tapout or Blackout]

Sounds like a killer. Probably too intense for me on the way down. You've all talked me into taking the easy way out. Deer Springs to Fuller Ridge PCT back to car. Who's in?

[bluerail]

send me a pm