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[Terry]

Hello HJ

I climbed a path that gained 2,500 elevation. Then I climbed a trail that gained about 2,000 feet.

Terry

[Zé]

I guess that what I am trying to say is that while it is great to warn (scare) non-hikers and weekend warriors – people who are experienced have to temper the advice that is posted here and try to judge for themselves based upon situations they have been in before.

it is equivalent to a marathon in energy, in extreme heat, without the ability to just 'quit' in the middle. the trail has parts above 1000 ft / mile which is generally considered "steep" (since most actual maintained trails are less than 20% in grade), so many people aren't used to that.

even fit people can have issues if they haven't dealt with all the variables before. but yeah of course some people who are experienced with all that aren't going to have a problem at all...but honestly who cares about them?

[Hikin_Jim]

Hello HJ

I climbed a path that gained 2,500 elevation. Then I climbed a trail that gained about 2,000 feet.

Terry

Hi, Terry,

I assume you did both of those two (the 2500 and the 2000) on the same day, yes? If so, that's a decent bit of training. Keep in mind though that hiking to the tram is roughly double that in terms of gain and is in all probability steeper as well as being out in the sun for the majority of the route. I think first shade is above 7000'. In other words, for ~7/8ths of the hike your in the desert sun.

So, hopefully all this information helps. I can give you some background, but ultimately you still have to make a judgment call.

HJ

[Cy Kaicener]

If you see a group of about 30 people this Saturday, it will be the Las Vegas Hike Up group. I hope to start early to avoid the stampede.

[bluerail]

"but yeah of course some people who are experienced with all that aren't going to have a problem at all...but honestly who cares about them?"- Joe

talking about yourself here buddy ?

[kd]

30 in a group???????

How early do you need to start to avoid that?


By the way, I will always consider Skyline steep.

[Cy Kaicener]

30 in a group???????

How early do you need to start to avoid that?


By the way, I will always consider Skyline steep.

Any time before 3.30 am should be good. They will surely split up into fast, medium and slow groups after a while.

Steve buddy - Doreen is gratefull for the help you gave her on Saturday. She said that she was in real distress from breathing problems before Coffmans Crag.

[Marknhj]

30 in a group???????
How early do you need to start to avoid that?
By the way, I will always consider Skyline steep.

Their site says they're leaving from Ramon at 4am. Leaving the Museum at the same time will get most people ahead of them at the Museum trail junction...

[Florian]

it is equivalent to a marathon in energy

Pondering this. I've only run one marathon. Was many years ago. I would have been about 28 years old. Took me over 5 hours. About same time it takes me to hike the Skyline. Skyline seems easier. But that might be because i enjoy hiking the Skyline and did not enjoy running the marathon.

-Florian

[Zé]

"but yeah of course some people who are experienced with all that aren't going to have a problem at all...but honestly who cares about them?"- Joe

talking about yourself here buddy ?

lol, point is it is redundant to talk about how experienced people should not be scared off by the descriptions people provide...if they are experienced, they will be able to filter through the info to understand the hike's demand. if they can't filter through, they aren't experienced.