NormaR wrote:heading to the zone... the Whitney Zone... for some snow camping. i haven't suffered enough frostbite yet this season.

Have fun up there, Norma. A couple of buds and I hiked up to Trail Camp today. We got a late-ish start (9AM) since we had to wait for the VC to open for a permit. If you're doing the Main Trail, expect snow beginning below Lone Pine Lake, and increasing rapidly thereafter. Because of the deep snow (well-consolidated, no snowshoes necessary) all the usual shortcuts were available. Carried crampons but didn't use them - probably would have had I been solo as it was bit dicey in a few spots - but due to the late start the snow was soft enough to kick steps were necessary.
It's very fast/direct travel with the abundance of snow. The usual rock/scree walls at Trail Camp are buried - is mostly a large snowfield, and the little pond is still frozen. Expect to melt snow.
Hope this helps.
Kevin