Anyone Interested in Trekking Nepal?

[mjordon]

Haha! I know what you mean! I said responsible member- not militant member! Ahh- it's really for me to use the huts anyhow.

Matt

[Norris]

Yes, I would, but only as part of a climbing trip. I have not been to Nepal (or anywhere in Asia for that matter) but when I do finally go, I definitely want to try to bag a 7,000er, such as Baruntse or Pumori. Not sure if Oct-Nov is the best time for that, definitely would be colder than March-May.
It might be cool to organize something that combines a trekking-only group with a trekking-climbing group.

[Dave G]

March-May, 2011: I'm in. Pumori might be interesting .

[mjordon]

Here is a rough breakdown of a Pumori ascent that my friend in Nepal sent me. If there are 13-15 members, the cost goes down dramatically.


Mount Pumori Ascend:

The Mount Pumori Base camp can be reached from Kathmandu - Lukla flight-and then trekking via Namche Bazaar, Thangboche - Pheriche and Lobuche. Mt. Pumori is 7145mts. high and ascent starts at 5,300mts, which is beside a beautiful small lake from here you can get a beautiful sight of Mt. Everest and Kalapthar at 5545m.


Camp 1:

After a 3 hrs walk you will reach camp 1 or advance base camp 5700m. After that you will have to walk the distance of 500m with the Elevation of 40 to 65 degrees slopes. Mount Pumori has many rocks and mixed climb traverse, steep and expose to wind narrow ridges, some ice walls, and one tunnel climb. Some times you may need fixed ropes also.

Camp 2:

It starts at 6200m. It is located on a narrow ridge; so there is no fear of avalanches. The next 400m, Is an ice climb with 35-65 degrees, more 5m, Is the Ice walls, many crevasses, and the bigger avalanche danger from big seracs hanging from the shoulder of 6500m.

Now camp 3:

It is too windy. At the height of 6850m, from where you can see Tibetan plateau; and you need rope here because of many crevasses and ice walls way to summit. After that there are two climbing ranges; one from Tibet side and other is from Nepal side. Between these 2 sides the Nepal side is easier to Mount Pumori Summit. After this walk, the Summit is easy to reach on it's vertex Pumori 7145m.

Normal route:

This is the easier route to climb this peak and most of the expedition coteries climbed this peak so by applying this route. As you know Pumori is not easy as like the other mountains, there are difficult technical parts in this route as well. We suggest you that, you should take climbing Sherpa; and who will guide you nicely to reach you on the top of Pumori.

You need to have at least 3 camps after base camp to reach the summit. The base camp is just above Gorek Shep at the altitude of 5300m. After base camp, you can set up first camp at the altitude of 5,650m, around the phase of Mount Pumori .

You should set second camp at the ridge after the phase at the altitude of 6,000m. The most technical part for this peak is around camp 1 and 2. You should set camp 3 at the altitude of 6,480m, around the corner after the ridge.

You can ascend summit from the camp 3 to the top of Pumori. Most of the climbers use this route every year for the expedition to Mt. Pumori to climb.

South - West ridge: Some very few climbers tried this route, but it is very difficult route. This route follows directly from the top of Kalapathar and goes straight over the ridge nearly by 75 Degree. As this route has lot of technical difficulties; so we suggest you to use the normal route for the Mt. Pumori and your group will comfortably reach on its top at 7,145m.


Tour Itinerary

Day 01 : Arrival Kathmandu.

Day 02 : Kathmandu. Briefing and shopping.

Day 03 : Kathmandu

Day 04 : Fly to Lukla (2800m), trek to Phakding (2640m). Overnight at

Day 05 : Trek to Namche Bazaar (3446m). Overnight in lodge.

Day 06 : Trek to Khumjung (3790m). Overnight at.

Day 07 : Khumjung for acclimatization and changing of porters and yaks.

Day 08 : Trek to Tengboche Monastery (3867m). Overnight in lodge.

Day 09 : Trek to Dingboche (4347m). Overnight in lodge.

Day 10 : Trek to Lobuche (4900m). Overnight at.

Day 11 : Lobuche, acclimatization day.

Day 12 : Pumori Base Camp.

Day 13-29 : Climbing Period Mt. Pumori.

Day 30 : Cleaning up Base Camp.

Day 31 : Trek to Dingboche. Overnight in lodge.

Day 32 : Trek to Khumjung. Overnight in lodge.

Day 33 : Fly from Syangboche to Kathmandu. Transfer to your hotel.

Day 34 : Sight seeing & farewell Diner

Day 35 : Return in your Hometown


Cost:

01 Person USD 9876.00

02 Persons, Per Person USD 6855.00

03-04 Persons, Per Person USD 5200.00

05-07 Persons, Per Person USD 3500.00

08-12 Persons, Per Person USD 3000.00

13-15 Persons, Per Person USD 2500.00


Climbing Sherpa guide, Per Sherpa guide USD 2000.00


Cost includes:

1. 5 Nights accomodation in Kathmandu with bed & Breakfast at 3 Star Hotel.

2. Permit fee of Pumori 7145m.Expedition

3. Food for Trekking and Expedition period for Pumori

4. Staff: Base camp Guide, Cook, Cook helper

5. Porters or Yak porter Lukla to Base camp & Base camp to Lukla

6. Kathmandu -Lukla - Kathmandu flights with Cargo 50 KG Per member

7. Equipment allowance, daily allowance for Liaison officer, expedition crew

8. Insurance for Nepalese expedition crew.

9. 1 tent for 1 person for Expedition north face brand

10. Mat, dining tent, Toilet tent, Mess tent, Store tent, Table and chairs trekking for the expedition

11. Local transportation in Kathmandu (Airport-hotel-airport)

12. Emergency Oxygen -Mask and regulator

13. Satellite phone (Pay calls)

14. Fare Well dinner


Cost does not include:

1. PERSONAL equipment for climbing & trekking.

2. Personal & medical Insurance of expedition.

3. Climbing food, Gas & stove above Base camp.

4. Lunch & dinner in Kathmandu.

5. Emergency Rescue evacuation by helicopter incase needed.

6. Walki Takie permit & Satellite phone permit.

7. Oxygen & Mask -regulator.

8. Personal expenses.

9. Bar Bills & beverage.

10. Garbage Deposit USD 3000.00 (Sharing of the total person) and Deposit fee will be not refunded if the clients (climber) don't take back their garbage to Namche Bazaar & Kathmandu.

[mjordon]

Everest Base Camp Trek Breakdown

Day 01-02 (6-7 March 2010) Depart CA for Kathmandu (via Hongkong)
This evening meet your tour escort (Matt Jordon) at Sanfrancisco International Airport (unless departing from elsewhere and meeting in Hongkong / Kathmandu) as we depart on Cathy Pacific Airlines on our exciting 21 journey of adventure to Nepal & Base Camp Everest.

Day 03 (8 March 2010) Arrive in Kathmandu
Upon your arrival in Kathmandu, we will greet you at the airport and accompany you to the Hotel Hyatt* or similar standard hotel. There will be time to rest and take in this vibrant city's energy, before a welcome dinner at a traditional Nepalese Restaurant.

Day 04 (9 March 2010) Kathmandu: Sightseeing and Trek preparation
The day will start with a guided tour of Kathmandu's historical and spiritual attractions; including the historic Durbar Square, the sacred Hindu temple of Pashupati Nath, the famous 'Monkey Temple' (Swayambunath) and Buddha Nath, one of the largest stupas in the world.
In the afternoon there will be pre-trip discussion where you can meet your trek leader and other team members, as well as ask any questions you may have about the upcoming adventure.

Day 05 (10 March 2010) Kathmandu - Lukla - Phakding; 3-4 hour trek:
After an early morning flight (40 mins) to Lukla (2,800m/9,186ft) and final preparations, the trekking starts. From Lukla you'll pass Chaurikharka village and make a descent towards the Dudhkosi Ghat (2,530m/8,300ft). The trail follows the bank of the Dudhkosi River until camp at Phakding (2,652m/8,700ft) is reached. To assist acclimatization, this first day is short.

Day 06 (11 March 2010) Phakding-Namche Bazaar: 5-6 hours
The trail crosses Dudhkoshi River over a long suspension bridge and then leads you along the river to Hillary's Suspension Bridge. Then the trail climbs further from here to Namche Bazaar.

Day 07 (12 March 2010) Namche Bazaar: Rest day
This is the first of the two scheduled 'acclimatization' days. You can spend it taking a day hike to Thame, visiting Khunde or relaxing and exploring Namche Bazaar itself. It's the main centre of the Khumbu region and has shops, restaurants, a bakery and a colorful market each Saturday.

Day 08 (13 March 2010) Namche Bazaar- Khumjung: 4 hours
Today's route starts by climbing up to the Shyangboche airstrip. Just above the airstrip is the Everest View Hotel, a Japanese scheme to build a deluxe hotel with great views of the highest mountains on Earth. Overnight in Khumjung (3,810m/12,500ft).

Day 09 (14 March 2010) Khumjung-Tengboche: 4-5 hours
From here the trail will descend slightly to Dudhkoshi at 3250m. Then a steep ascent will bring you to the famous Tengboche Gompa, with its stunning background of Ama Dablam, Mt. Everest and other peaks.

Day 10 (15 March 2010) Tengboche-Dingboche: 5-6 hours
There's a slight descent early today through lush forest, before the gradual climb up to the valleys highest year round settlement of Pangboche (3,860m/12,664ft). Continue ascending in the afternoon through alpine meadows and yak herds, eventually reaching Dingboche.

Day 11 (16 March 2010) Dingboche: Rest Day
The second acclimatization day will be spent at Dingboche. As at Namche Bazaar, there is a side-trip planned from Dingboche, or you can rest. The side trip will wind up the valley to Chhukung for sensational views.

Day 12 (17 March 2010) Dingboche-Duglha: 3-4 hours
Today is a climb to Duglha (4,620m/15,158ft) where we will stay overnight to complete acclimatization. From here there are stunning views of Tawachee and Cholatse (64440m).

Day 13 (18 March 2010) Duglha - Lubuche: 2-4 hours
The trail goes from Duglha directly up to the Khumbu Glacier for an hour, then left into the memorial area before reaching the village of Lubuche (4,930m/12,894ft). By this stage the effects of the altitude will be kicking in and you can expect colder nights.

Day 14 (19 March 2010) Lubuche-Gorak Shep: 2-4 hours
The trail continues climb to Gorak Shep. It takes a couple of hours to walk up to the famous viewing point of Kala Pattar (Black Rock) at 5,545m/18,192ft; this small peak offers the best views of Mt. Everest, Pumori and Ama Dablam you can get without climbing. Overnight in Gorak Shep (5,160m/16,929ft).

Day 15 (20 March 2010) Gorak Shep-Everest Base Camp- Lubuche: 6-7 hours
This day leads you finally to the Everest Base Camp (5,357m/17,575ft) walking through rocky and glacial trails where climbers gather for summiting Everest. Continuing the trek we'll return to Lobuje (4930m/12894ft) for overnight.

Day 16 (21 March 2010) Lubuche-Pangboche: 5-6 hours
The trek retraces halfway back and lunch at Pheriche. Finally the trek ends at Pangboche 3,860m/12,664ft), which lies on the bank of Imja Khola.

Day 17 (22 March 2010) Pangboche- Namche Bazaar: 5-6 hours
Now the trail retraces the same way back, stopping at Tengboche. During the November-December full moon the colorful Mani Rimdu festival is held here with much singing and dancing. Overnight in Namche Bazaar (3,400m/11,286ft).

Day 18 (23 March 2010) Namche Bazaar- Phakding: 5-6 hours
Today the trail steeply descends to the Hillary Suspension Bridge and then continues on an easy natural trail. Overnight in Phakding (2,652m/8,700ft).

Day 19 (24 March 2010) Phakding-Lukla: 3-4 hours
And finally today the trail will lead you back to Lukla (2,800m/9,186ft). On arrival in Lukla you will have time to relax, stretch those sore legs and celebrate the completion of your trek.

Day 20 (25 March 2010) Lukla- Kathmandu
After an early morning flight to Kathmandu, you'll head to your hotel. Today is a well-earned day to put up your weary feet and gratefully rediscover all of civilization's perks. You could catch up on some last minute shopping or explore any sights missed during your first day in Kathmandu. Finally there'll be an evening celebration dinner together.

Day 21 (26 March 2010) Kathmandu
Today you will have a free day to wander around Kathmandu, shop for souvenirs or just simply enjoy the company of newfound friends.

Day 22 (27 March 2010) Depart Kathmandu
Today the journey comes to an end. There's nothing to do but trade emails with your new friends, organize all your photos and finally depart from Nepal.

**Please note exact itinerary to be confirmed and are subject to change should weather conditions or other unforeseen circumstances require

*there are also a wide range hotels categorized in 4 star hotel @ double less price.

[phydeux]

This is almost definately a "guerrilla marketing" effort . . .

[mjordon]

A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.
Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)

[phydeux]

mjordan;

Regarding the private email you sent me - I have nothing to hide myself, just wondering are you running a business or are you an agent for a business? And if you are either, why not be up front from the start? I've worked in sales and starting a relationship by being deceptive doesn't make for a lot of trust (or business) in the future. Reread the quotes you've posted (on this thread and the other one) and think about 'em.

I like the fact this forum is kept free of advertising, and that there are a lot of interesting people of different abilities with different goals; hate to see anyone of them get hurt (literally or figuratively). If the webmaster doesn't like me posting this he/she can either contact me and tell me such, or block me out.

I'll end it here.

[zippetydude]

mjordon: As I recall, you've posted before, and it hasn't always been about marketing. So maybe Phydeux is wrong.

On the other hand, that trekking thing struck me as a potential sales pitch immediately.

Made me think...I ran into a guy once, who traveled for free. He'd find a deal with an adventure company, like buy 8, get one free, and then he'd recruit 8 other people and not tell them about the deal. They wouldn't be charged extra, but they wouldn't get any discount either, and he'd go for free. He said he felt fine about it because he earned his way by organizing the event.

My feeling was that if he were straight up about it and the other members agreed with him, more power to him. If they all felt that the discount should be split evenly, then that's the way it should go. But, they should be informed of the full truth, regardless of the consequences.

There aren't many other threads like this on this board, so it sticks out. Then, that New Zealand post showed up. C'mon, be fair, that's a little odd, isn't it?

Can you see how posts that appear to encourage others to suddenly lay out thousands of dollars should draw scrutiny?

I don't think Phydeux is nuts - I think he spoke the truth gently but directly.

My opinion? If you're not trying to market anything, Phydeux's question shouldn't bother you. If you are trying to sell something here, you should stop that, and come out and have fun with us instead.

z

[bluerail]

HEY !! anybody interested in doing the Inca trail with me this summer?