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If there is nothing wrong with anything you consume then why not reveal all that you consume on your hikes? Come on, be honest, I mean, after all, you do state how much water you carry! Why not all that, (other stuff)?
and don't go saying something like, I never failed a drug test, like lance does, (according to zip) otherwize people will get suspicious. you don't want people gettin suspicious do you?
ok then. out with it then!

let's see...

coffee before a hike? happens maybe 5% of the time.

on the hike?

gummy bears
a sandwich


and don't carb load before. so I guess I should carb load and drink coffee before a hike to improve time...except that I'm not trying to improve hiking times (with few exceptions...still got that 3 hr iron mt goal).


here's a good paper on reviewing caffeine in sports performance

do I drink some coffee before an intense cardio session at the gym? sure do a lot of the times. who cares. i'm already training at very high %'s of VO2max...sure caffeine may allow me to sustain a few bpms more of heartrate, but considering how hard i'm already training I could care less if someone else thinks its 'cheating', lol.

sounds like you're saying is that the caffeine you take just before you do your workout doesn't make that much difference. If that's true why are you taking it then?

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Hey, here's a slight variation on this topic that I was not expecting to hear:

Rumor has it that some people (not on this board) often use psychoactive substances that do not enhance performance (although I guess the goal is to enhance the experience in some other fashion?) on the trail.

Now, I'm not totally naive, but I was kinda surprised. Who wants to feel tired the whole way and crave Life Cereal all the way to the top?

is this what happens when you get all wee weed up?

In a marathon that I ran, there were some people offering margaritas at mile 22. Now, 4.2 miles later I'd have taken the whole blender, but at mile 22, I still have some tough work to do - the hardest 4 miles of the day. Some folks did stop and get a margarita. I don't think any less of them, I'm just baffled.

Kooky world.

z

ak and hj sure do get all wee weed up don't they!

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Intersting discussion. Here's another conundrum concerning Diamox;

You can go to most third-world countries and get Diamox over the counter in pharmacies. From personal experience I know its available in Mexico City (the Mexican Volcanos), and Bolivia (Illimani and Huyna Potosi are just outside LaPaz). Considering its readily available in those countries to anyone who comes there to go climbing, is it considered OK?
I bought some in Bolivia, but didn't use it when on the mountains.

Interesting thing about LaPaz, Bolivia - there are so many Euro and North American tourists coming there to climb/hike/bike that the pharmacies practically know what you want when you walk in the door, and some even advertise on their shop windows that they have it in stock (in English & German, too!).

Lance Armstrong - His situation is somewhat odd to me. When he was winning all those TdFs, I wondered why he never participated in the other big summertime Euro bike races; the Vuelta (Spain) and the Giro (Italy). All the other top cyclists did, but Lance only did the TdF. Makes me wonder if he was using while training, then stopped with enough time for it to wash out of his system.

interesting, if he trained all the time with drugs and then stopped like you say, I wonder if he loses the benefits of the drug when it is not in his system. that seems consistent with Zips claims on Lance saying I never failed a drug test instead of saying I don't do drugs. sad.
But another angle, Look at his life compared to tiger. another tell...

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I could care less if someone else thinks its 'cheating', lol.

this means you care. I knew you had a conscience!

Now if you really meant to say you didn't care, yer supposed to say. "I couldn't care less if someone else thinks its 'cheating', lol."
But I know you care!

[phydeux]

interesting, if he trained all the time with drugs and then stopped like you say, I wonder if he loses the benefits of the drug when it is not in his system. that seems consistent with Zips claims on Lance saying I never failed a drug test instead of saying I don't do drugs. sad.
But another angle, Look at his life compared to tiger. another tell...

Lance - Using PEDs for their physical benefits while doing the hard training in the off eason (allowing him to develop more endurance and muscle power while 'overtraining' so he could avoid injury) and a psycological boost that allowed him to do fitness 'maintenance' training for a few months prior to the TdF knowing he'd improved over the off season. It would be something like a non-drug-using football player or baseball player putting in the hard work in the off season. He'll be better the following year and can back off to a "maintenance" workout program during the season while still maintaining his newly developed skills/conditioning.

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Carbs = sports doping. Anyone who has used carbs* on a hike in the last 10 years is now banned forever from the sport.

Use of water artificially increases peformance and gives a hiker an unfair advantage over those who don't. Possession of such a performance enhancing substance is strictly forbidden.

If you can't absorb it from the air around you, then it's clearly an artifical performance enhancer and is therefore forbidden. It's only fair. All reasonable people will agree with me.



*or other unethical substances such as protein.

makes about as much sense as advising a parent to escort his child into a closed area. Does Crystal Lake ring a bell?

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interesting, if he trained all the time with drugs and then stopped like you say, I wonder if he loses the benefits of the drug when it is not in his system. that seems consistent with Zips claims on Lance saying I never failed a drug test instead of saying I don't do drugs. sad.
But another angle, Look at his life compared to tiger. another tell...

Lance - Using PEDs for their physical benefits while doing the hard training in the off eason (allowing him to develop more endurance and muscle power while 'overtraining' so he could avoid injury) and a psycological boost that allowed him to do fitness 'maintenance' training for a few months prior to the TdF knowing he'd improved over the off season. It would be something like a non-drug-using football player or baseball player putting in the hard work in the off season. He'll be better the following year and can back off to a "maintenance" workout program during the season while still maintaining his newly developed skills/conditioning.

I can understand training. Training hard but with drugs? are you sure he did this?
pretty sad actually.

[HikeUp]

I hate all of you.

[Perry]

Fight On, are you Mormon? Obviously you have OCPD.

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Fight On, are you Mormon? Obviously you have OCPD.

Nope, not morman. I hear though that they don't drink coffee! ocpd? never heard of it. do all mormans therefore all have ocpd?