Trails affected by Station Fire

[halhiker]

Boy, where do I start?

Trail Canyon
Long stretches of the PCT, possibly all the way from around Sulphur Springs to Hwy 14.
Pacoima Canyon
Condor Peak Trail
Gold Creek Trail, might be another one around here that I'm missing, Mendenhall Ridge? Magic Mountain?
Fall Creek Trail
Grizzly Flats Trail, probably both trails (from Hwy 2 and from Big T)
Stone Canyon
Placerita Canyon, Oak of the Golden Dream -- there's a couple over there; haven't been over there for a while.
Deukmejian Wilderness Park (multiple trails)
Rim of the Valley Trail (kind of part of Deukmijian Wilderness Park
Sister Elsie Trail
Sam Merrill Trail
Castle Canyon Trail
Dawn Mine Trail
Sunset Ridge Trail
Dawn Mine to Mt. Lowe Railway (the upper connector)
Dawn Mine to Sunset Ridge Trail (the lower connector)
Tom Sloane Trail
Parallel trail to Tom Sloane trail (on the other side of the ridge.
Around 50% of the Gabrieleno National Recreation Trail.
Switzer Falls Trail (to the base of the falls from Gabrieleno, or is that just the Bear Canyon Trail?)
The mount Lowe "8."
San Gabriel Peak Trail
Mount Disappointment Trail
Bear Canyon Trail
Mt. Wilson Trail, upper section.
Rim Trail.
Possibly Mt. Zion Trail
Sturdevant trail, upper section.
Possibly Winter Creek Trail -- section to Mt. Wilson Trail.
Mt. Wilson Toll Road, the portion used as part of the Mt. Wilson Trail
Valley Forge Trail
Kenyon Devore Trail (formerly Rattlesnake Trail)
Idlehour Trail
Gould Mesa Trail?
Ken Burton Trail
Any "unofficial" trails in the Arroyo Seco
Agua Prieto Trail
Possibly Vetter Mountain Trail
Silver Moccasin Trail (from West Fork to Charlton/Chilao)
Possibly Devils Canyon Trail
Both Trails to Mt. Hillyer
Strawberry Peak Trail
Barley Flats Trail
The Clear Creek Jct to Switzer's Trail
Colby Canyon Trail
North Strawberry Peak Trail (From Colby Ranch)

That's just off the top of my head. I'm sure there's more.

HJ

Wow. That's more than I expected. Of course, the acreage is burned is greater than the acreage of the San Gorgonio, San Jacinto and Santa Rosa Wilderness area, combined.

Incredible. I guess with a lot of things you just cannot get the scope of things by watching them on TV.

[AlanK]

sounds like this guy just want's to put fires out to me. I say let em burn. just get out of the way and let mother nature do her thing. It's gonna happen anyway.

Let what burn? Mt. Wilson? La Canada? Sunland-Tujunga? Acton? Your house?

[FIGHT ON]

sounds like this guy just want's to put fires out to me. I say let em burn. just get out of the way and let mother nature do her thing. It's gonna happen anyway.

Let what burn? Mt. Wilson? La Canada? Sunland-Tujunga? Acton? Your house?

Hey, if you build your house in the la river, don't expect me to run over every time it overflows and build a wall to save it. you build your house up close where you know there is gonna be a fire you better build it out of concrete. oh, maybe not concrete! doesn't that explode?

[AlanK]

Hey, if you build your house in the la river, don't expect me to run over every time it overflows and build a wall to save it. you build your house up close where you know there is gonna be a fire you better build it out of concrete. oh, maybe not concrete! doesn't that explode?

OK. If we let fires burn freely, we should let debris flow freely, 'cause that's messing with nature just as much as suppressing fires. If they get rid of all of the debris dams, most of the houses in the San Gabriel Valley are basically in the river (at least on the wrong day).

[FIGHT ON]

Hey, if you build your house in the la river, don't expect me to run over every time it overflows and build a wall to save it. you build your house up close where you know there is gonna be a fire you better build it out of concrete. oh, maybe not concrete! doesn't that explode?

OK. If we let fires burn freely, we should let debris flow freely, 'cause that's messing with nature just as much as suppressing fires. If they get rid of all of the debris dams, most of the houses in the San Gabriel Valley are basically in the river (at least on the wrong day).

Hey you wanna build your house in a debris basin, go for it dude!

when you put natural fires out it allows unnatural growth.
Sorry to break it to ya but that's just the way it is.
If you wanna build your house in the forest, build it outta concrete, darn I keep forgetting that concrete explodes, anyway, build it out of non burning materials. let em burn.

[physicslord]

If this thing is human caused, which most of them are these days, then how is this a natural burn?

You hear people say the hills need to burn every now and again (and I'm sure that's true) but I don't care how hot it is, or how strong the wind is blowing - there isn't going to be fire unless somebody starts one.

Occasionally, lightning starts fires. But we don't get thunderstorms that often. These days our fires are mostly human caused.

Now a whole bunch of great hiking trails are toast. They will probably have to keep them closed for a while. This Stinks big time.

Man, Smoky was right.