I moved the thread here, assuming that was a mistake when you posted it in the website feedback section.
"And he knows those computers better than anybody, all those computers, those vote-counting computers. And we ended up winning Pennsylvania like in a landslide, so, it was pretty good, it was pretty good, so thank you to Elon!" -Donald Trump
I have been on a hike with that leader. He is an excellent leader, and in no way can you blame him for the accident. ODC is very clear that everyone should know their own limits, and that the leaders are not responsible. On ODC trips the "leader" is more of a trip organizer than a "leader" I feel bad for both Terry and the lady who fell.