Wet T-Shirt Contest

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Wet T-Shirt Contest

Postby cynthia23 » Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:12 pm

This post has two purposes: 1. to get someone to get Fern to PM me with his phone number so I can return his shirt to him. Its continued presence in my household is haunting me. The burden of protecting its shiny wonderfulness from three children, four dogs, and a shedding cat is weighing on me and causing sleepless nights. Help. I want to be emotionally free again. 2. to start a useless controversy about a trivial subject that preoccupies me in my (many) idle moments. Here it is: "sports clothes." Here's my humble opinion, thrown down to outrage, offend, and hopefully provoke some interesting posts--polyester sucks. Oh, excuse me: 'technical fabric" sucks. I find it incomprehensible that anyone can wear any of those shiny, tight clothes without screaming. I've tried them a time or two and found them almost unendurably uncomfortable--clammy, hot, constricting. In my opinion, 'technical fabric' is a plot. I think what happened is that somewhere around 1975, someone at a clothing company noticed that their sales of polyester shirts were (rightfully! so rightfully!) plummeting. In a panic, dark and despairing, facing bankruptcy, some evil genius of marketing had a eureka moment and screamed "Rebrand". "Polyester" disappeared, and "Technical fabric" was born. And now, instead of old people, it's hikers who are suffering from the plastic horror.

Now mind you, I won't argue that the tight, shiny clothes don't look better. But they feel horrible. To my mind, hiking demands two fabrics: cotton, and wool. If it's hot, I wear lightweight cotton shirts and pants. If it's cold, I wear wool. When I read the ads for the 'technical' clothes, they're always going on and on about 'wicking' and 'staying dry'. But when it's hot, I don't want my clothes to wick. I want them to get and stay wet! Because then my shirt functions essentially like a swamp cooler--air blowing through the wet shirt is cooled down, bringing down my body temps. Wearing something tight, made of out of plastic, and which keeps drying out, is exactly wrong for a hot desert hike. This is so obvious that frankly I don't get how these companies can go on claiming the opposite. I also don't get how they can charge seventy bucks for a polyester shirt made in China. I pay 2 dollars for a cotton one at the thrift store. Yes, I look like a bag lady, but hey, I'm cool! In so many more ways than one!

Okay, nuff of me and my incredible fashion genius. I now want to hear what YOU wear while hiking, and why? Polyester devotees, prove me wrong! The more controversial and outrageous, the better. And I hope we hear something from the nude hiking contingent--I know for a FACT :oops: that some of you are out there ...
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Postby scottmac » Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:22 pm

I say: whatever works ...

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Postby cynthia23 » Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:26 pm

OMG! Um, ScottMac, thanks? But I actually did see two girls climbing Skyline in their underwear, once. It was above Flatrock and they were in the "we don't care anymore about anything' phase .... :) Needless to say that was a great day for the gentlemen of the trail ...
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Postby » Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:37 pm

this thread has potential!


maybe this can help your imagination Cynthia

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Postby Sally » Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:30 pm

I confess - I am a polyester convert. I used to be an all-cotton (or wool) gal until about 15 years ago when I went backpacking in Washington and it rained for a week straight. I had cotton T-shirts, Levi's, and cotton long johns. The wet clothing was dead weight whether I was wearing them or they were in my pack, and they never dried out. It was awful. I don't think wool would have helped much.

Polyester works for me on mountain hikes because I sweat while hiking, but when I get to a summit it's usually cool and windy, and I don't need to be wearing a soaking wet t-shirt that won't dry.

I will still sometimes wear cotton if I'm hiking in the desert and it is warm and dry for the duration of the hike.

I also confess that I experimented with topless hiking in the mountains north of Lake Tahoe in the early seventies once. My friend and I ran into a Boy Scout troop, and they were not at all happy with us. Eventually we met up with a ranger who insisted that we put our shirts back on. End of experiment - never tried it again.
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Postby halhiker » Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:30 pm

cynthia23 wrote:OMG! Um, ScottMac, thanks? But I actually did see two girls climbing Skyline in their underwear, once. It was above Flatrock and they were in the "we don't care anymore about anything' phase .... :) Needless to say that was a great day for the gentlemen of the trail ...


What is this thing you call "underwear?".
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Postby cynthia23 » Sat Feb 11, 2012 12:39 am

Wow Ze dat is some interesting pic there. :o Kind of a codpiece effect. And I'm very interested to hear Sally's tales of topless hiking and boy scout encounters--although that also sounds like the plot of some dubious movies ... and I'm pretty sure the Boy Scouts were in fact VERY happy with them ...I must grudgingly admit that it's true cotton is no good for rainy or moist climates, but then, I would assert that you're better off with wool, as even when it's damp it's said to hold in body warmth. At least psychologically, it always makes me feel better. Actually, one of my pet crank theories is that human beings naturally feel better in fabrics that were once connected to other living beings. Maybe I think that because my grandmother was a furrier and I grew up surrounded by animal pelts. Of course, er, those were all living beings somebody had killed ... I haven't done any extreme alpine conditions so can't really speak to the suitability of wool for more severe weather. However, as a general principle, I would say that any kind of exercise gear has to be breathable, i.e. it can't collect sweat under an impermeable surface, and that's where I just don't see polyester as ever making the grade ... arguments? Come on folks let's see some anger! Plastic people get your rage on!

I think part of what annoys me about the 'technical clothes' is that form doesn't follow function. They're really more of a fashion statement--'Look! I'm FIT!" then clothes that actually help make you fit.

Hal--the girls were down to underpants and bras. Imagine what woulda happened if they had been commando that day ..... :oops: and that reminds of the story about the day of the crazydude rescue, when my (well-worn, cotton) pants split open all the way down the back....my, didn't I feel like an ass ...
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Postby Florian » Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:06 am

I used to always were cotton shirts when hiking. But always hated the cold clammy feeling after a break when my shirt was damp from perspiration and i had to put my pack back on. Then one day i wore my cycling jersey top on a hike. Wow, no cold clammy feeling anymore. So now my regular summer hiking top is a nice subdued brown cycling jersey. Another benefit of the jersey is for short scrambles i can put a snack or water bottle in the back pockets of the jersey and not carry a pack.

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Postby HH8 » Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:52 am

Zé wrote:this thread has potential!


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Postby Ed » Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:26 am

I liked the cotton/polyester blends which were once common, now they seem to have disappeared from the market. Otherwise, this discussion is far too racy for me to comment on! But entertaining to read.
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