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Postby tinaballina » Wed Aug 18, 2010 4:52 pm

for the record, i mean no disrespect to the marines.
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Postby Hikin_Jim » Wed Aug 18, 2010 6:31 pm

tinaballina wrote:for the record, i mean no disrespect to the marines.
Sure, Tina. :wink:

Let's just say I wouldn't be going near Twenty Nine Palms any time soon if I were you. :)

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Postby Vnthali » Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:51 pm

My thoughts on the ongoing discussion:

Jim, LCpl Hughes, the account of the Marine who died in 29 palms was one of the toughest peace-time lessons learned for the Corps. It changed the way training and personnel accountability is handled in every field training exercise conducted by marines everywhere. Jim, you're right the guy who lied should (and did) get burned for his oobvious lack of leadership.

Tina, I don't think anyone on this board is saying anything to intentionally bash the marines. Right now, with all of the recent incidents, the marines have placed theselves on the bright part of the RADAR screen. The hiking / climbing exploits many of the board members engage in regularly make this activity look deceptively easy. Its not. Steve (Bluerail) said it best when he described the work he and those who hike/climb with him as hard work. No one climbs / hikes 5k to 10k feet of elevation gain and says its easy. These guys made poor decisions, and suffered the consequences.

Anyway, I'm done rambling. I just got home from work, and my head is still going about a hundred miles an hour. Time to read some Carl Sagan. Good night all.
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Postby snakeback » Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:13 am

I gotta agree with Lcpl Hughes. As a former Grunt, the last thing I wanted to do was spend my free time humping over the weekends. You do that all week long. More than likely inexperienced non field marines. I would put my life savings on that. Most grunts can hump any mountain in their sleep, with 5 times the amount of gear a civilian takes with them. These guys now are humping in afghanistan....100+lbs of gear and ammo on their backs, 30 miles a day, while getting shot at.
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Postby AlanK » Tue Sep 14, 2010 1:07 pm

snakeback wrote:I gotta agree with Lcpl Hughes. As a former Grunt, the last thing I wanted to do was spend my free time humping over the weekends. You do that all week long. More than likely inexperienced non field marines. I would put my life savings on that. Most grunts can hump any mountain in their sleep, with 5 times the amount of gear a civilian takes with them. These guys now are humping in afghanistan....100+lbs of gear and ammo on their backs, 30 miles a day, while getting shot at.

I started off confused by the fact that I was assuming a civilian slang definition of a particular verb. But, hey, I can work with context. :)

In any case, I have nothing but admiration for the folks who carry huge loads under incredibly harsh weather conditions into combat situations.
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Postby zippetydude » Tue Sep 14, 2010 1:46 pm

snakeback wrote:I gotta agree with Lcpl Hughes. As a former Grunt, the last thing I wanted to do was spend my free time humping over the weekends. You do that all week long. More than likely inexperienced non field marines. I would put my life savings on that. Most grunts can hump any mountain in their sleep, with 5 times the amount of gear a civilian takes with them. These guys now are humping in afghanistan....100+lbs of gear and ammo on their backs, 30 miles a day, while getting shot at.


That word? To paraphrase Elvis, "Whole lot of humping going on."

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Postby snakeback » Tue Sep 14, 2010 2:06 pm

haha. I didnt even think it could have been a poor choice of wording. Typical dumb jarhead mistake :)
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Postby AlanK » Tue Sep 14, 2010 3:24 pm

snakeback wrote:haha. I didnt even think it could have been a poor choice of wording. Typical dumb jarhead mistake :)

Great wording, IMO. It stimulated thought. :D
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Postby » Tue Sep 14, 2010 3:52 pm

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Postby bluerail » Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:29 pm

..so, about you and that Marmot.....

I probably shouldn't ask, should I ? But that shocked, worried look on his face...it just had me wondering..
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