The Inevitable Question after November 7th...

[zippetydude]

Go Sally!

Perry: That would take you about 20 minutes. Then what?

Hal: I agree variety is crucial on most hikes, repetition is generally boring. This is something of an aside for me, it's fun simply because it is so different from what we all normally do. Still, if four proves impossible, it won't break my heart to root for others while I take the day off.

Zé: I'm with you. This would be boring and lonely by myself. If we had a few guys that wanted to do it, it would be a lot of fun. I generally agree with you on the breaks vs. hours, but I'm not sure here. It was really tough to take 5:30 on the second lap. I think the "coefficient of ease" that I was postulating is about 80% of one's normal training speed. I move more efficiently and more naturally if I'm not way off my usual pace. I'd have to have a larger sample size that 1 attempt to generalize very well though. See also the posting to Steve. You in?

Steve: We still need to check out some other adventures! Walt and I are already scouting the Mission Creek adventure. You in? How about Snow Creek - I need to get some longer mileage in soon. Skyline is steep, but not long. I've got a 50k coming up Dec 6, so I need some longer miles to adjust to the greater distance.

z

[halhiker]

Four? Really? And I thought three was crazy.

[Cy Kaicener]

Four seems to be unreaistic, but four over two days sounds a lot better.

[tinaballina]

Go Sally!

Perry: That would take you about 20 minutes. Then what?

Hal: I agree variety is crucial on most hikes, repetition is generally boring. This is something of an aside for me, it's fun simply because it is so different from what we all normally do. Still, if four proves impossible, it won't break my heart to root for others while I take the day off.

Zé: I'm with you. This would be boring and lonely by myself. If we had a few guys that wanted to do it, it would be a lot of fun. I generally agree with you on the breaks vs. hours, but I'm not sure here. It was really tough to take 5:30 on the second lap. I think the "coefficient of ease" that I was postulating is about 80% of one's normal training speed. I move more efficiently and more naturally if I'm not way off my usual pace. I'd have to have a larger sample size that 1 attempt to generalize very well though. See also the posting to Steve. You in?

Steve: We still need to check out some other adventures! Walt and I are already scouting the Mission Creek adventure. You in? How about Snow Creek - I need to get some longer mileage in soon. Skyline is steep, but not long. I've got a 50k coming up Dec 6, so I need some longer miles to adjust to the greater distance.

z

keep me posted on your longer ventures, i am totally in. i feel like over the summer i did long endurance hikes and now only doing skyline you are right, its too short especially when we pr.

[Rick Kent]

Zip's times were excellent! I can't see cutting my time down much. I can definitely go faster but that only reduces what energy I have left for the remaining trips. In general for these kind of repeat hikes I find I have to add an hour for each trip. My primary goal this past Sat was to conserve energy at all costs. Only toward the last hour or two on the 3rd trip did Michael and I really push hard. It still took us 6 hours. Maybe I need to start running Marathons like Zip.

[tinaballina]

rick, i have to say i am impressed with your ability to pace yourself, you guys did great. i have to work on that, i have a tendency to take off out of the gate, thus, draining the rest of the trip. zip is like perry and now steve they almost have superman like powers.

[SDathlete]

im for sure in for three ...four is doable with the right support and preparation.

[tinaballina]

My thought is go for three in the spring, and then next november go for four.

[michael]

Im in ,Zip, for an after the winter Quad-sky...probably wont make it. But i will up my training with this in mind as a goal. I will also try to get more "doubles" in to help prep.

Let me know what weekend or range of weekends you have in mind next year?

michael torrez