C2C/SKYLINE: CLOSED FOR THE SUMMER. COME BACK IN OCTOBER.

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Postby bobodobo » Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:38 pm

Zé wrote:Again, you've come in here to announce that you've successively hiked up the PCT to peak, and therefore Skyline would be okay too.

Where did I say that?

The Skyline trail isn't on any topo, Google, USFS, etc. map that I saw, so I didn't even realize that the route existed until a day before I did the PCT route. By then I had already planned for PCT so I decided not to change plans at the last minute. But after doing the PCT "slog", I thought of trying again via a more direct (i.e. steeper) route. I was surprised to see that Skyline was considered by some to be so dangerous in summer, so I was trying to find out why and how dangerous it is compared to PCT. Some people starting saying it was riskier because it's steeper, which didn't make sense to me since neither is a semi-technical cross-country route Snow Creek (talk about throwing out a red herring...) Some people said that it's riskier because it has less shade, which doesn't seem to be true either (either route, essentially no shade up to the tree line which seems to be at about the same elevation either way). The starting elevation on Skyline is about 1000' lower but my impression (correct me if I'm wrong) is that Skyline has less elevation loss on the way up than PCT. So I was trying to get clarification on why Skyline is considered by some to be a riskier hike.

The two factors which I could envision adding more risk to Skyline are

(1) Since the starting elevation is lower and the east side seems to be a little warmer than the west side in general, the average temperature will be a few degrees warmer on a Skyline hike.

(2) Skyline might be more difficult to follow since it's not as well established as PCT + Little Round Valley (though if you download and use the routes posted on the C2C website with your GPS, that wouldn't seem to be much of a factor.)

So again the question (to anyone) is, in your opinion which route is potentially more dangerous and why?

Thanks in advance for the opinions. I'll just read this blog from now on... the last word is yours (if you want it.)
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Postby » Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:37 pm

bobodobo wrote:Some people starting saying it was riskier because it's steeper, which didn't make sense to me since neither is a semi-technical cross-country route Snow Creek


And your "didn't make sense" assumption is wrong, as I've explain. So please, just stop.
 
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Postby bluerail » Thu Jun 14, 2012 5:30 pm

I'm starting to feel dizzy....and confused. Which snowcreek are we talking.about ?

Hey, if you want to decide for yourself ......theres one easy way to decide which one is more fun.....sometimes its just better to figure it out on foot, and if you've done the pct and you feel you're game....


I know you're comment about not being real up on something and then spewing out calculations and formulas has more people than myself interested in what you do and how much you hike/run/workout/ whatever.....come on, introduce yourself to the group.

We're actually really fun to play with.
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Postby arocknoid » Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:05 pm

May I also suggest more time spent hiking in Blackstone Canyon?

(re: other advice...)

--with the usual disclaimers---
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Postby cynthia23 » Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:13 pm

Does anyone besides me remember the "Heather" troll? That was the guy who kept popping up with successive "hot girl" names. I know this is sick, but I found him perversely amusing.
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Postby HikeUp » Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:13 pm

successively = successfully

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Postby cynthia23 » Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:41 pm

successive= 'following in order". The Heather Troll was not successful in fooling anyone (though I did enjoy him.)

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Postby bluerail » Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:58 pm

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Postby Hikin_Jim » Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:48 am

I hear that one of the nice things about Snow Creek is the approach. There's a lot of vegetation there, so plenty of shade, right? :twisted:

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Postby bluerail » Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:09 am

that and the fact that it's dark during the torture test.
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