Clarifying the trail at the peak

[Perry]

They might end up hiking from the summit north in search of Jepson!:shock:

Tell them to visit the Jepson Peak message board...

[FIGHT ON]

Oh, BTW, I'm also a Bruins and Irish fan.

HEY HAL. HOW'S THAT WORKIN' FOR YA!
(don't see ucla or the irish anywere!)

Associated Press Top-25 College Football Poll
Team (First-place votes) Record Points Previous Rank
1. U-S-C Trojans (62) 2-0 1,621 1
2. Oklahoma Sooners 3-0 1,484 2
3. Georgia Bulldogs (2) 4-0 1,475 3
4. Florida Gators (1) 3-0 1,442 4
5. L-S-U Tigers 3-0 1,363 6
6. Missouri Tigers 4-0 1,360 5
7. Texas Longhorns 3-0 1,174 7
8. Alabama Crimson Tide 4-0 1,132 9
9. Wisconsin Badgers 3-0 1,091 8
10. Texas Tech Red Raiders 4-0 962 11
11. B-Y-U Cougars 4-0 919 14
12. Penn State Nittany Lions 4-0 891 16
13. South Florida Bulls 4-0 798 12
14. Ohio State Buckeyes 3-1 790 13
15. Auburn Tigers 3-1 785 10
16. Wake Forest Demon Deacons 3-0 711 18
17. Utah Utes 4-0 574 20
18. Kansas Jayhawks 3-1 555 19
19. Boise State Broncos 3-0 363 NR
20. Clemson Tigers 3-1 300 23
21. Vanderbilt Commodores 4-0 242 NR
22. Illinois Fighting Illini 2-1 224 22
23. East Carolina Pirates 3-1 201 15
24. T-C-U Horned Frogs 4-0 117 NR
25. Fresno State Bulldogs 2-1 105 25
Others receiving votes: Oregon 100, Oklahoma State 98, Virginia Tech 63, Colorado 39, Nebraska 32, Connecticut 26, Tulsa 19, Miami-Florida 17, Michigan State 14, Georgia Tech 8, Kentucky 7, Northwestern 7, Ball State 6, South Carolina 3, Florida State 2, North Carolina 2, West Virginia 2, Minnesota 1.
As of September 21, 2008, at 01:21 PM ET

[halhiker]

Oh, BTW, I'm also a Bruins and Irish fan.

HEY HAL. HOW'S THAT WORKIN' FOR YA!
(don't see ucla or the irish anywere!)

Associated Press Top-25 College Football Poll
Team (First-place votes) Record Points Previous Rank
1. U-S-C Trojans (62) 2-0 1,621 1
2. Oklahoma Sooners 3-0 1,484 2
3. Georgia Bulldogs (2) 4-0 1,475 3
4. Florida Gators (1) 3-0 1,442 4
5. L-S-U Tigers 3-0 1,363 6
6. Missouri Tigers 4-0 1,360 5
7. Texas Longhorns 3-0 1,174 7
8. Alabama Crimson Tide 4-0 1,132 9
9. Wisconsin Badgers 3-0 1,091 8
10. Texas Tech Red Raiders 4-0 962 11
11. B-Y-U Cougars 4-0 919 14
12. Penn State Nittany Lions 4-0 891 16
13. South Florida Bulls 4-0 798 12
14. Ohio State Buckeyes 3-1 790 13
15. Auburn Tigers 3-1 785 10
16. Wake Forest Demon Deacons 3-0 711 18
17. Utah Utes 4-0 574 20
18. Kansas Jayhawks 3-1 555 19
19. Boise State Broncos 3-0 363 NR
20. Clemson Tigers 3-1 300 23
21. Vanderbilt Commodores 4-0 242 NR
22. Illinois Fighting Illini 2-1 224 22
23. East Carolina Pirates 3-1 201 15
24. T-C-U Horned Frogs 4-0 117 NR
25. Fresno State Bulldogs 2-1 105 25
Others receiving votes: Oregon 100, Oklahoma State 98, Virginia Tech 63, Colorado 39, Nebraska 32, Connecticut 26, Tulsa 19, Miami-Florida 17, Michigan State 14, Georgia Tech 8, Kentucky 7, Northwestern 7, Ball State 6, South Carolina 3, Florida State 2, North Carolina 2, West Virginia 2, Minnesota 1.
As of September 21, 2008, at 01:21 PM ET

Doesn't look good for either of those teams this year but that's OK because I have a life and don't worry about such trivial things too much.

And, of course, USC hasn't played Stanford yet.

[halhiker]

Guess I'll have to cheer for OU this year.

Maybe we can agree on one thing. I HATE all the Big Ten and SEC teams. I get so sick of all those guys on ESPN loving the SEC. I don't even watch.

[tkvance]

I look at cairns/ducks as a physical defacement of nature---similar to carving a name on a tree (obviously, different degrees, but the same principal)----leave no trace is a good policy, and leaving a cairn/duck is absolutely against the leave no trace principles.

Possibly the only way this would be acceptable is if you are SERIOUSLY lost and need to leave a pointer to rescue personnel---but then, you should go back and scatter the cairn after you are rescued.

[FIGHT ON]

I look at cairns/ducks as a physical defacement of nature---similar to carving a name on a tree (obviously, different degrees, but the same principal)----leave no trace is a good policy, and leaving a cairn/duck is absolutely against the leave no trace principles.

Possibly the only way this would be acceptable is if you are SERIOUSLY lost and need to leave a pointer to rescue personnel---but then, you should go back and scatter the cairn after you are rescued.

Do you leave boot/shoe prints when you hike?

[robpollard]

I'm one post and out on this one, but its a little funny how long a discussion there was about whether or not you should leave a pile of rocks showing you how to get to the pile of rocks (from the OP). Just an observation.

[tkvance]

Do you leave boot/shoe prints when you hike?[/quote]

Ok, fight on, let me remind you the old Scout adage and Leave No Trace line---leave only footprints, take only pictures (memories). Nature would be a whole lot more natural if this were the case.

Rock piles placed on the trail are a nuisance, and not a natural part of nature. People who think like you are the same ones who painted dots on the C2C trail a while back---people who can't figure out with a map/compass/gps how to get to where they want to go. We should also have a water fountain at the top, since it makes it easier to drink water, have an escalator, and maybe even have a neon sign that points the way to the top.

They probably also took the tram, because it was too long of a hike from one of the trailheads.

Respect the outdoors, and leave your man-made additions off the trail whenever possible.

Ask yourself, would you carve your name in a tree, too, showing that you had been there? A rock pile is thinking along the same lines. Not as permanent, of course, but if everyone did it, think what the trail would look like.

[FIGHT ON]

Do you leave boot/shoe prints when you hike?

Ok, fight on, let me remind you the old Scout adage and Leave No Trace line---leave only footprints, take only pictures (memories). Nature would be a whole lot more natural if this were the case.

Rock piles placed on the trail are a nuisance, and not a natural part of nature. People who think like you are the same ones who painted dots on the C2C trail a while back---people who can't figure out with a map/compass/gps how to get to where they want to go. We should also have a water fountain at the top, since it makes it easier to drink water, have an escalator, and maybe even have a neon sign that points the way to the top.

They probably also took the tram, because it was too long of a hike from one of the trailheads.

Respect the outdoors, and leave your man-made additions off the trail whenever possible.

Ask yourself, would you carve your name in a tree, too, showing that you had been there? A rock pile is thinking along the same lines. Not as permanent, of course, but if everyone did it, think what the trail would look like.

sooo, do you?

[asbufra]

I went to the top of San Jacinto a few weeks ago, for the first time. I had no trouble finding the summit, but I was happy there was a small rock pile to show the way to some slabs that were an easier way to the top. It really has nothing to do with maps or getting lost, in fact a map would not have helped at all since it was only a few feet from one way up to the others.

I am not young anymore and anything that points out the easier way with less stress on my knees is appreciated.