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Postby 63ChevyII » Tue Apr 22, 2014 6:18 pm

bamm321 wrote:Hey Chevy, it seems like those charts would be a nice sticky at the top of the forum for people to get some trail difficulty comparisons.

It was nice running into you on skyline the other weekend also :)


Hi Bamm321,

Nice to meet you too. I will send you that info on dog hikes... just need to put it together. :D

Keller Peak and the Children's Exploration Trail is the main one I mentioned:
http://www.everytrail.com/view_trip.php?trip_id=1206480
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Postby tekewin » Tue Apr 22, 2014 6:29 pm

63ChevyII,

Those are some very cool charts. If you have done Big Iron Mountain in the San Gabriels, it would be a good one to add to the charts. The 6800-7000' down hill from Iron is maybe worse than the uphill.

BTW, I was not arguing that one particular hike is tougher than another (Whitney vs C2C), I was just pointing out that Whitney has an altitude element that is missing from C2C. Any individual might experience one or the other as more difficult.

Full disclosure: I haven't done C2C yet, but that may change this weekend.
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Postby 63ChevyII » Tue Apr 22, 2014 6:39 pm

Thanks tekewin.

The elevation factor for Whitney is what does it for me. Most of the people that I hike with haven't been sensitive to elevation. I am sensitive to it. That's also why I put 'perceived difficulty' in the notes. Maybe I should change it to 'my perceived difficulty,' to emphasize it's a personal evaluation.

I haven't done Big Iron yet, but if someone has a gpx file, I can chart it, although I won't be able to assess it's difficulty.

I have been slowly transitioning over to a new domain name, but here is a page with a few more charts:
http://www.hikinggeek.com/2013/12/03/mo ... mparisons/
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Postby zippetydude » Tue Apr 22, 2014 7:47 pm

63ChevyII: I love those charts too! They're a great tool for comparison.

tekewin: I know what you mean about altitude being a whole separate animal. It doesn't generally affect me much, but once I pushed kinda hard on Whitney (it's really tough running the switchbacks, and even worse above Trail Crest) and things started to go dark every now and then with tunnel vision...I'd slow down and the light would return, I'd speed up and it would get darker and darker...wacky. BTW if you're doing Skyline this Saturday I just might be out there myself. It's always fun to meet in person on the trail.

jamesgiel: A note on the weather in May - here's a link to the daily averages for Palm Springs in May. It may help to guess how to prepare a bit more in advance, though if you look at the average highs, they're all around the threshold that Cynthia had mentioned, and of course the record highs are astronomical.

http://www.weather.com/weather/wxclimat ... imoMonth=5

If you want to do the prep work, you could even come down in fairly high temps as long as you have lots of extra water cached along the way in advance. I've done that and just kept spraying myself with mist the whole way. It actually works really well. It's kind of funny to be cold when it's blazing hot outside, but it is an effective solution to the problem.

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Postby tekewin » Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:28 pm

zippetydude wrote:BTW if you're doing Skyline this Saturday I just might be out there myself. It's always fun to meet in person on the trail.


It would be cool to meet you zippetydude, but Sunday will be my day if I am able to go.
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