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Sunday Dec 28

Postby Ellen » Sat Dec 27, 2008 5:07 pm

Howdy All :-)

Heading the first tram up tomorrow. The plan is to take the Sid Davis route over to Round Valley and then cross-country (with snowshoes) up to the peak of San Jacinto, depending on the conditions of the snow and how other people feel. If we're sinking a lot, we'll take the regular trail to Round Valley.

Hope to see some of you regulars out there and perhaps see Kathy Wing on the way to the summit.

Miles of smiles,
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Postby Karen R » Sat Dec 27, 2008 8:02 pm

Long time lurker here...

I have also made plans to head up the first tram tomorrow and hike/snowshoe as conditions/time/engery permit. Haven't decided if I want to go for the summit or just poke around.

Would love to meet up with you Ellen--I'll have a burgundy Gregory pack, snow shoes, etc. I have short red hair...perhaps we'll met up in the lobby of the tram.
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Postby Ellen » Sat Dec 27, 2008 10:21 pm

Howdy Karen,

Thanks for letting me know -- I'll be looking for you in the boarding area :-) I'm 5'3," short blond hair, blue eyes, and will be wearing a gray Gregory pack with aqua MSR snowshoes.

Miles of smiles,
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Postby Karen R » Sun Dec 28, 2008 6:27 pm

Hey Ellen,
Home safe & sound! It was so great to meet you, and I was glad that you could connect with the stronger, faster boys from the WPS message board. I went as far as Wellman Divide...had a tasty lunch and was back at Long Valley by about 1:30. Good thing...traffic coming home was a stinker.

It was a beautiful day with excellent conditions. Let's meet up again soon.

Best,
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Postby ajwoodzy » Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:01 pm

[quote="Karen R"]Hey Ellen,
Home safe & sound! It was so great to meet you, and I was glad that you could connect with the stronger, faster boys from the WPS message board. I went as far as Wellman Divide...had a tasty lunch and was back at Long Valley by about 1:30. Good thing...traffic coming home was a stinker.

It was a beautiful day with excellent conditions. Let's meet up again soon.

Best,[/quote]

How were the conditions on top of the peak? I am heading up via the Marion Mountain Trail on the 30th and want to know whether to bring crampons or snowshoes or both. Thanks
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Postby Karen R » Mon Dec 29, 2008 8:37 am

Alex,
The trail was in great shape from Long Valley to Round Valley...used hiking boots only. There were a couple of areas where the snow was unconsolidated and we post holed a bit, but not bad.

From Round Valley on, we all used snow shoes. I only went as far as Wellman Divide...no ice, just snow. However, with the warm days here and cold night temps, there may be ice above--I'd take both crampons and snowshoes.

Hopefully the folks in my group who did the summit will post the conditions they found. Happy hiking!
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Postby KathyW » Mon Dec 29, 2008 4:07 pm

I was on the summit about 9 am this morning - I went up from Tamarack Valley. The snowshoes helped between Long Valley and Tamarack Valley where I spent the night. This morning I didn't need snowshoes to get from Tamarack Valley to the summit (just a little post-holing), but it is starting to get a bit icy up above 9000' in places and will get icier as the freezing and thawing continues.

some pics:

http://kathywing.smugmug.com/gallery/6954543_pvKWR#445056915_vA3JH
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Return to San J in the snow

Postby Ellen » Mon Dec 29, 2008 4:14 pm

Howdy All :-)

I met Karen in the boarding area and she recognized Arthur, Jeff and Andrew from previous hikes. They're from San Diego and post frequently on the Whitney Portal Store forum. Karen and I chatted and made our way sans snow shoes. We decided to forgo the Sid Davis route and stay on the well-traveled trail. Compared to last Sunday, the snow was much more compact. Although colder than last Sunday, the warmer weather (compared to Saturday) was causing ice to drop from the trees.

We caught up with the guys in Round Valley sitting on a downed tree to put on their snow shoes and decided to follow their example. As we introduced ourselves, they asked if I was the "Ellen" in the hut. I really have to start wearing a disguise. As Arthur and Jeff described their forum posts and screen names, I realized that I've read many of their trip reports on different hiking forums. Arthur (the crew chief) and Jeff have also hiked extensively with Laura (aka Moosetracks).

We discussed our respective plans for the day and the guys kindly let me tag along with their group. Arthur led and we made our way up through the trees following ski tracks. I took over leading from Arthur. Once we cleared the trees and reached the south face, the incline became quite steep. I tried to traverse towards the Miller saddle but wasn't making much headway. Arthur had the same problem. We opted to go pretty much straight up.

The snow was firmer than last Sunday but we occasionally slipped backwards as we climbed. At other times the crust was firmer and you heard the reassuring crunch as our snowshoes made good contact. Crampons would have been useless. I had a bad moment emotionally when I kept slipping backwards and couldn't seem to gain purchase either laterally or vertically. Andrew was with me and took over leading, which helped tremendously.

We were very happy to reach the top of the ridge and found ourselves positioned perfectly for the San J summit. Arthur's water bottle picked this particular moment to jump out of his hand and shoot down the slope. He vowed to find it on the way down. Arthur also saw that I hadn't used the elevators on my MSR Lightening Ascent snow shoes. He showed me how they work so that I could test them out on the final climb up to the summit. Wow, what a difference! I look forward to using them the next time.

It was wonderful to ascend up the mound of snow covered rocks to the summit. I was ecstatic and screamed when I saw the sign. The weather was cooperative (high 40's and virtually no breeze) so we were able to have a leisurely lunch and get the requisite summit photos. Right about the time we were leaving, another group of four (two men and two women) came up. They had ascended near the saddle between Jean and San J. It turns out they were also on the first tram but took the Sid Davis route (my initial plan) and wound up post holing -- at times up to their waists.

I had hoped to descend via the more gentle Miller saddle but decided to stay with the guys. This involved going downhill the same steep slope in snow that had grown even softer with the afternoon sun. This was not my finest hour -- I was afraid and moved very slowly until we reached the gentler grade in the trees. Arthur glissaded down-hill like a madman. On the positive side, Arthur did find his water bottle and my next snowshoe descent will be more fun.

We removed the snowshoes at Round Valley. The snow was softer so we did post hole more on the return. I had the usual celebratory beer at the tram and dinner at Las Conseulas. I've eaten there so often one of the waiters thought I lived in Palm Springs.

Thanks again to Arthur, Jeff, and Andrew for a fabulous hike -- I look forward to joining you again soon.

Miles of smiles,
Ellen
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Re: Return to San J in the snow

Postby Hikin_Jim » Mon Dec 29, 2008 5:10 pm

Ellen wrote:... they asked if I was the "Ellen" in the hut. I really have to start wearing a disguise.
Oh! Oh! I know! I know! You could scrape up your legs to look like they've been attacked by demonic cougars. It'd never even occur to them that you're "Ellen of the hut." :lol:
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Postby Ranboze » Mon Dec 29, 2008 7:33 pm

Great TR, Ellen, and thanx for sharing. And congrats on overcoming those moments of flashbacks and for summitting! woohoo!
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