over night permits

[ultrarun33]

Hello - I'm planning a overnight camp up san jancito sometime the next few weeks and would like to know if overnight permits came be picked up at the ranger station in idyllwild. Also not sure which campsite to camp in. Thinking either 'Little round valley' or 'Round valley'.
Any feedback appreciated. - thx

[Perry]

You're in for one hell of a hike! Since you will be camping in the State Park, you'll want to go to the State Park ranger station in Idyllwild, not the Forest Service (unless you change your mind and decide to camp on their land).

[KathyW]

Please provide more information. What trailhead will you start at? Are you looking to hike in to a nice campsite, spend the night, and then hike back out? Are you looking at doing the hike to the summit of Mount San Jacinto or some other place up there as well as camping?

[ultrarun33]

Please provide more information. What trailhead will you start at? Are you looking to hike in to a nice campsite, spend the night, and then hike back out? Are you looking at doing the hike to the summit of Mount San Jacinto or some other place up there as well as camping?

Hello Kathy - The plan is to start from Humber Park then hike the Devil slide trail-PCT-Wellman divide route towards the summit and set camp at 'Little round valley'. Next morning hike up to the summit and view the sunrise then head back towards Humber park.

[KathyW]

I don't think you have to camp in designated sites in the San Jacinto Wilderness (San Bernardino National Forest), so if you don't want to go all the way to Little Round Valley or Round Valley to set up camp maybe you could camp near the State Park Boundary near Willow Creek where the junction of the trail from Saddle Junction and Strawberry Junction is. It could be slow going with the snow, ice, and slush that you might run into, but it sure is beautiful out there right now; so have fun.

Here's some info on camping the the national forest:

http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/sanbernardino/documents/san_jacinto_wilderness_map..pdf

[ultrarun33]

I don't think you have to camp in designated sites in the San Jacinto Wilderness (San Bernardino National Forest)

Kathy - Thanks for the heads up on that. If I do decide to camp inside the San Jacinto Wilderness, do I still need to get a overnight permit since I will be parked at Humber Park parking lot?

[KathyW]

Yes, there's a ranger station in Idyllwild. You might want to give them a call to check on where you can camp because it's been a while since I've gotten an overnight permit for that area and things do change.

http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/sanbernardino/contact/sanjacinto.shtml

[guest]

Ultrarun,
Hi, if you haven't already gone camping, you will also need an Adventure pass to park at Humber Park, can be bought at the Chevron Sta in Idyllwild, ranger Sta, Big 5.
$5 1 time use, or $35 for the year, good in I believe 3 Nat'l Forest areas in So Cal.
I snowshoed to the peak Sat, snow was inconsistent, challenging, hard, mushy, not very deep. One had summited w/out snowshoes and post-holed a bunch.
There's some moderate exposure on the long traverse from the flat area of the trail through the Boulder field to Miller Pk saddle.
That may all change w/in the next few days, as a system is coming in.

Great temps, almost no wind, could actually see Catalina Island!

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[Mntngoat]

The Mrs and I and Rex the wonder pup are planning that route this weekend.

Michael

[Hikin_Jim]

If I do decide to camp inside the San Jacinto Wilderness, do I still need to get a overnight permit since I will be parked at Humber Park parking lot?

There might be some confusion here.

The Mt. San Jacinto Wilderness is on both State and Federal Land. If one stays in Mt. San Jacinto State Park portion of the wilderness, one must get a permit (at least in the summer) for a specific camp site. In the winter the rules may be different.

When one stays in the Federal (USFS - San Bernardino Nat'l Forest) portion of the wilderness, one is assigned to a zone and one can camp anywhere within that zone (with certain restrictions).

Hope that helps.